Monday, June 15, 2020

I'm a Psalm 110-ist

Jesus is King now!
Folks often ask me what I believe about the future. In my many years of being a Christian (accepted Christ when I was 6 years old; I'm now 59), I've been all over the board on eschatology (the study of the last things). I've studied this incredibly popular and interesting subject my whole life and am still doing so. Obviously, many things about this subject are mysterious as Christians all throughout history have been also all over the board on the specifics. The things that all Christians throughout all the 2000 years of church history have agreed upon (Roman Catholic, Protestant, & Eastern Orthodox) are:
  • The future coming of Jesus Christ
  • The future bodily resurrection of the just & unjust
  • The future universal judgment
  • The future coming of the New Heaven & New Earth.
These are depicted clearly in every writing, creed, and council. Though we, as Christians, have a greatly varied opinion on the details and schemes, we all end up in the exact same place in 100% agreement: a New Heaven and a New Earth in immortal glorified resurrected bodies, reigning with Jesus Christ forever. Amen! Praise the Lord!

For example:

The Apostle's Creed (circa AD 120-250) states:
I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth. I believe in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord, who was conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried; He descended to hell. The third day He rose again from the dead. He ascended to heaven and is seated at the right hand of God the Father Almighty. From there He will come to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting. Amen.
The Nicene Creed (AD 381) states:
We believe in one God, Maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, begotten from the Father before all ages, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made; of the same essence as the Father. Through Him all things were made. For us and for our salvation He came down from heaven; He became incarnate by the Holy Spirit and the virgin Mary and was made human. He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate; He suffered and was buried. The third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures. He ascended to heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again with glory to judge the living and the dead. His kingdom will never end. And we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life. He proceeds from the Father, and with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified. He spoke through the prophets. We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic church. We affirm one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look forward to the resurrection of the dead, and to life in the world to come. Amen.
The Athanasian Creed (circa AD 500) states:
...The Son suffered for our salvation; He descended to hell; he arose from the dead; He ascended to heaven; He is seated at the Father's right hand; from there He will come to judge the living and the dead. At His coming all people will arise bodily and give an accounting of their own deeds. Those who have done good will enter eternal life, and those who have done evil will enter eternal fire. This is the catholic faith: one cannot be saved without believing it firmly and faithfully.
These are universal (ecumenical) truths. But how do we get there? What is going on now? This is where agreement ends.

Having studied the various beliefs I have learned not to be too dogmatic about these things. I am content to not go too much further than the above 3 ecumenical creeds. In fact, as the title to this short article shows, I am content to call myself a Psalm 110-ist. In a bit more detail, this is why:

Jesus is currently at the right hand of God according to the above. Scripture says:
Romans 8:34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.
What is He doing at the right hand of God, and why has He not returned to earth yet?
Psalm 110:1 The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, till I make Your enemies Your footstool."
Acts 3:19 "Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, 20 and that He may send Jesus Christ, who was preached to you before, 21 whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.
Hebrews 10:11 And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool.
So, Jesus is at the right hand of God "waiting till His enemies are made His footstool," then, and only then, after that point, will He return, and in one appointed day, put the last enemy, which is death, under His feet via the resurrection of the just and the unjust.
Acts 17:30 "The times of ignorance therefore God overlooked. But now He commands that all people everywhere should repent, 31 because He has appointed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained; of which He has given assurance to all men, in that He has raised Him from the dead."
Acts 24:14 "But this I confess to you, that after the Way, which they call a sect, so I serve the God of our fathers, believing all things which are according to the law, and which are written in the prophets; 15 having hope toward God, which these also themselves look for, that there will be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust."
1Corinthians 15:25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.
So, is Jesus king now? Or is He going to become king in some future millennial kingdom?

He is king now:
Acts 2:29 "Brothers, I may tell you freely of the patriarch David, that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. 30 Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that of the fruit of his body, according to the flesh, He would raise up Christ to sit on his throne, 31 he foreseeing this spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that neither was His soul left in Hades, nor did His flesh see decay. 32 This Jesus God raised up, to which we all are witnesses. 33 Being therefore exalted by the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He has poured out this, which you now see and hear. 34 For David didn't ascend into the heavens, but he says himself, 'The Lord said to my Lord, "Sit by my right hand, 35 until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet."' 36 let all the house of Israel therefore know certainly that God has made Him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified."
Therefore, we are not waiting on a secret rapture, but rather we are the means by which Christ is putting all His enemies under His feet. He is reigning right now on the throne of David at the right hand of God. And He will return after all His enemies are made His footstool, and then personally put the last enemy down, which is death, via the resurrection of the dead. Then the New Heavens and New Earth will come and we will reign forever with Him on a New Earth under a New Heavens in our glorified, immortal, resurrected bodies.

Part of participating in the putting down of His enemies is what this blog is all about; getting the sick healed. Sickness is incipient death. And healing of physical sickness is a taste of the full redemption of our bodies in the resurrection to come. How do I know this? Jesus, when He walked the earth, forgave sins based on His [then] coming atonement on the cross. It is the atonement that bought forgiveness of our sins. Jesus, when He walked the earth, also healed sickness based on His [then] coming atonement on the cross. It is the atonement that also bought redemption of our bodies:
Matthew 8:16 When evening had come, they brought to Him many who were demon-possessed. And He cast out the spirits with a word, and healed all who were sick, 17 that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet, saying: "He Himself took our infirmities and bore our sicknesses." [quoting Isaiah 53:4]

Monday, March 2, 2020

Faith & Persistence in Prayer

Mountain of Adversity
This story is so good and encouraging, I just had to share it. It comes from a book that has John G. Lake's sermons in it. The title of the story is simply: "Adventures in Religion, Radio Lecture 5, June 28, 1935." 

I've laid hands on literally hundreds of people since I first started doing this. Oftentimes something tangible happens immediately and pain diminishes, or there is a feeling of heat, or of cold, or sometimes, tingling. Other times there is just a feeling of great peace. But occasionally, nothing at all seems to happen. It is times like that, that we need to press in. Yes, Jesus healed the sick instantly, but there were a few cases where the sick were healed over a period of time. For example:
  • Lepers were cleansed "as they went" (Luke 17:14)
  • The nobleman's son "began to amend" (John 4:52)
  • Jesus prayed twice for a blind man (Mark 8:22-26)

And why would Paul tell us to stand for something if it were not occasionally necessary to do so? He writes, "Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to standStand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God; praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints– (Ephesians 6:10-18)

So we are to stand "in the power of His might," not ours. And notice above he says for us to stand no less than 4 times. I believe we fail in healing many times simply because our faith is not long enough. We do not persist. We pray once and then that's it. But we must push against that mountain constantly, never letting up, until we see the manifestation of the power of the Kingdom of God; until we see "His Kingdom come" and exercise its complete dominion and rule over all the power of the enemy! We are not pushing God, we are pushing the adversity. It is the thief (the devil) that comes to steal, to kill, and to destroy, not God (John 10:10). Jesus comes to bring life. And He never changes (Hebrews 13:8).

Here is the short story in its entirety:
"This afternoon I want to talk to you on the subject of miracles. From the year 400 until now, the Church has assumed the attitude that the days of miracles are passed -- without any scriptural evidence whatever. They have taught that miracles were to demonstrate the divinity of Jesus and, therefore, the divinity of Jesus being demonstrated, there was no longer any need for miracles.
"We had a local incident that demonstrates the effect of this teaching, I think. My conviction on the matter is that it has done more damage to the Christian faith than any other teaching that has been promulgated. There is a gentleman who works at the Davenport Hotel in Spokane, O. A. Risdon, who is one of the engineers there. He had a son with a deformed head. The top of the head raised up like the ridge of a roof, the forehead and back of the head also were forced out in similar manner, giving the head the appearance of the hull of a yacht upside down. He was born with what the physicians call a closed head. The boy was always slobbering. The pressure on the brain caused the right side to become paralyzed, and the boy was dumb. He was five years old at this time.
"The physicians said there was nothing they could do. Then in desperation, he appealed to his pastor. The pastor told him the days of miracles were past, that the Lord did not heal now, that miracles were given to demonstrate the divinity of Jesus. The father replied, 'If Jesus would heal my son I would be convinced that He is divine now. If He is divine he could lift this damnation from our house.'
"Finally, he came to us seeking help. We began to minister to the child. In a few days we observed that the paralysis began to depart. Instead of walking on one side of his ankles he began to walk on the foot, and that indicated that the pressure was relieved on the brain. In seven weeks the child was perfectly well. The bones of the head softened and came down to normal. The paralysis disappeared and the child began to talk. In three months he was in the public school. He is a young married man now.
"Dear friends, if we had continued to believe that the days of miracles were past, that boy would be in the insane asylum. But we believed that Jesus Christ was the same yesterday, today, and forever, and the boy was healed. It is a delight to believe the works of Jesus. I have used this rule in my study of the Scriptures. If there is any question on any Scripture I settle it with the words of Jesus. I consider all the Scriptures are a common court of the Gospel, but the words of Jesus are the Supreme Court of the Gospel. When I want a Supreme Court decision I appeal to the words of Jesus.
"You can read all the words of Jesus in two hours or less in a red-letter New Testament. Make a practice of reading the words of Jesus on any subject that troubles you, and make a compilation of what He says. He ought to be sufficient authority on any question, for the heavenly Father called attention to the fact that He is the Son of God and that we are to hear Him. He said: 'This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye Him.' (Matthew 17:5)"

Thursday, October 18, 2018

All His Promises Are Yes and Amen

Crack! Not a sound you want to hear when someone falls. This past weekend was not my favorite. A near catastrophe hit close to home. My granddaughter, Calvary, who is just 4 years old fell and hit the back of her head... hard. Her mom (my daughter) and her dad rushed her to the ER. She was disoriented, dizzy and crying. Her lips began to turn blue. She would go to sleep and then wake up and vomit. ER doctors put her in a neck brace. Then they did a CT scan on her head and her neck. Meanwhile, I was reigning in my emotions. This little girl is quite a bright spot in my own life. My first grandchild, Gunnar, spent much of his younger years with my wife helping my other daughter, Kimberly, raise him. He is currently 7 years old. But because of his early years spending so much time with my wife, he naturally has a special place in his heart for her. In a similar situation, due to Calvary's mom, Kayla, owning a dance studio, my wife helping with it, and her daddy, John, going to night school, I had the privilege of babysitting her on many evenings. I think because of this, she naturally has a special place in her heart for me. She is always glad to see me, hugs my neck and says, "Poppy, you want to go play?"

Having raised 3 daughters, her little personality reminds me a bit of each of my own. She can be quite determined like Kimberly (my oldest), very artistic and sweet like Karahann (my middle), and very comical/imaginative like her mother, my youngest, Kayla. I honestly can see all 3 of them in her. Raising my 3 and going through their bumps and bruises was, at times, very difficult. But having to go through it with little Calvary seemed very different. I can't explain what it is, but I guess it has to do with my age, maturity and the fact that she's a grandchild. As a parent, you are learning as you go and so much of the time you are worn out, physically. As a grandparent, the physical tiredness is missing and there are just some things you already know how to handle but you watch from the sidelines as your own children struggle with learning to be parents. Many times I know what to do to help, but I keep my mouth shut. I've never wanted to be a know-it-all. Yet I yearn to help.

But now, my granddaughter was suffering along with my wife, whose heart is so tender it breaks when she hears of anyone suffering. Calvary's parents were also having to see their little one suffer an injury that, possibly, could be life-threatening. They were dealing with feelings of guilt as all parents do when their children get hurt. Could I have done something different? In fact, I still have to deal with that same feeling even with grown children wondering if I could've been a better parent and saved them from some of the pain.

So with my wife, Calvary, John & Kayla all in the ER, I sat in Kayla's van with my 2nd grandson, Calvary's little brother, Ezekiel, while he slept, oblivious to the drama unfolding around his little life. I was trying to reign in my emotions and fear for Calvary's well-being. Just a few minutes ago, I had left that Sunday's church service at Christ Fellowship having listened to my oldest daughter sing on the praise team. I was actually singing "All His Promises are Yes and Amen" when my wife got the phone call from Kayla informing us of their sudden unexpected trip to the ER. Having dealt with tons of calls like this in the recent past, due to a series of traumatic events that happened in our lives, this call reinforced my wife's fears of phone calls. She had endured so much with the loss of her mom and her dad just a few years ago. Watching her suffer this call brought up all those horrible fears and dread once again both for me and for her.

We rushed to ER where I had let my wife out, parked my car, and got in Kayla's car to watch Ezekiel. While attempting to reign in my emotions, that song came up in my heart, "All Your Promises are Yes and Amen." And then I saw in my mind's eye the times angels appeared to men in the Bible and the first words out of their mouths were always, "Fear not." Then I heard, "Perfect love casts out fear, for fear has torment." Torment. Yes, I was currently familiar with torment. Then, just as quickly, I saw Jesus say to Satan, "Get behind Me!" and I suddenly realized just what an act of violence and intolerance that was. Wiping tears from my eyes, I pointed my finger forward, sitting there in that van, and I said out loud, "Get behind me, Satan. You are blocking my view of God. I'm going forward where there is no fear. And if you are in front of me I'm going to walk on top of you and crush your head. So... get behind me! What God will do for one, He'll do for another. He promised I could do Jesus' works. He promised I can ask what I will in Jesus' Name and He would do it for me. He promised that all Calvary's pains and diseases were healed by the stripes laid on Jesus' back. So... get behind me!" I then downloaded that song to my phone and began to sing. The peace of God entered my soul very unexpectedly. I then said, "Calvary's brain is healed. She will live and not die. She will lead a normal life. And from this point on, she will begin to amend. It will be an amazing recovery." Then I smiled at Jesus as I remembered a line from a very recent sermon given at our church by Jamie Winship, "Jesus will come right into the middle of your fear, every time. Even if the doors are locked!"

I continued to sing.

Calvary Recovering
In the ER, the report was no neck injury, no brain bleed but a hairline fracture of her skull. She woke up again and vomited. In the van, Ezekiel woke up. My wife came to the van and comforted him. We took him home and I headed back to the ER. I found Kayla on the bed with Calvary, who was sleeping and John watching on and a friend of ours, Kathy (who is also a nurse), there with them. Calvary woke and said her head hurt. They admitted her to watch her overnight. We moved to a hospital room. She woke again and vomited. But she acted like herself. A great sign. I stayed with them until late. Calvary's vitals became normal. She stopped throwing up. She talked to the nurse and all of us like she normally would, surprising us all with her little witticisms and light-hearted personality. She was healing nicely with no further symptoms or complications.

The next day will be a day in the history of Greg Kiser marked and remembered by Jesus Himself, as a day when I was probably the most thankful man who had ever lived on planet earth. John and Kayla's little family returned home with Calvary toting new toys obtained along the way. I had a new perspective; I personally know what Jesus meant when He said, "Get behind me, Satan." All His promises are "Yes" and "Amen."

Jesus had healed Calvary.

Thursday, September 28, 2017

A Painful Knee Healed

A few weeks ago an elderly lady (80+ years old) knew I had laid hands on some folks before and had seen them healed. I ran into her again. She made small talk but then finally when I asked how she was doing she said she was in good health but that her knee had been bothering her a little especially when she walked down stairs. We happened to be standing near stairs at the time, so I asked if I could pray for her and then she could try these stairs. She agreed.

I had her sit down on a bench and asked her to put her own hand on her knee and I would simply put my hand on her arm. I did not think it would be proper for me to put my hand on her knee myself especially in front of others. This is just wise and showing modesty and respect, which I highly recommend, if you are praying for the sick, to observe all the time. Jesus will heal in any way you will allow. Normally I would put my hand on the affected area, but when it comes to sensitive areas, particularly where women are concerned, be very respectful and fail toward being too modest rather than abrasive and forward. Jesus will heal either way.

I simply laid my hand on her arm and pointed my finger at her knee and commanded her knee to be healed and pain to leave. She said, "Wow, I feel it getting hot in there!" Yes! I said it is now time to see what progress has been made because, after all, it doesn't take Jesus long to do a miracle. So I asked her to try the stairs.

She went up the stairs and cautiously started down. She said, "It definitely feels different. But there is still a little pain." So I had her sit down again and we repeated what we had done before. Better. We did it a 3rd time. Even better. We did it a 4th time. Done! All pain was gone. She only said, "It doesn't feel 100% right, like the other knee, but now there is no pain at all." I explained that it could simply be that Jesus fixed it better than the other one, or that it will take it a little while to feel completely normal.

Jesus loves to heal knees, even 80+-year-old ones. You're never too old for Jesus to heal you.

Monday, May 8, 2017

Pain Removed From Neck Injury

I went out of town last week, for the whole week. Had to teach class to some techs on how to use our product. The classes for the techs were coordinated by a couple of engineers that work for the company I visited. They make sure the equipment is setup and working, the lunches are present and otherwise host us all even taking the techs out to dinner on the company's expense for one of the days of training. These two guys also were very hospitable to me; way better than I deserve. They even took me out a few of those days for dinner. On one occasion I noticed one of them holding his arm on the way to the restaurant and even after we had ordered our food. I asked him about it. He said he had just had an MRI which revealed some discs in his neck that were now so small that on occasion nerves running to his arm would get pinched by the vertebrae being too close together. He knows me well so it was not hard to simply ask him if I could pray for him right there at the restaurant. He immediately agreed. I laid my hands on his neck and spoke healing to him. His neck immediately got hot and he felt tingling down his arm. His pain diminished over the rest of dinner until it was completely gone by the time we went our separate ways.

I checked on him the next day before class. He said he slept well, like he hadn't in several weeks but that he woke up with more pain in his arm. I didn't have time before class to pray for him but I asked him to come back after class and we'd pray again. He came back. I laid hands on him again and spoke healing. There was heat this time, but nothing was much helping his pain. He couldn't lift his arms up above his shoulders without really bad pain.

It dawned on me something I had learned from others that minister healing in Jesus' Name. So I had him judge how high he could lift his arms before pain stopped him. He showed me. His arms were nearly even with his shoulders. I then told him I was going to command pain to go and healing to come, place my hands on his neck for about 2 seconds and then when he felt my hand lift to then immediately see how far he could lift his arms. I imagine the River of Living Water (Jesus' Life) rushing out of me into the other person and then I remove my hands before "the River" rushes back. (This totally cracks me up thinking about it that way! But Jesus doesn't seem to mind my crazy imagination and many times, for whatever reason, it seems to work.) So when I lifted my hands he immediately lifted his arms cautiously. They went even with his shoulders to where they were before, but this time without pain. He went higher. No pain. All the way up. No pain! Jesus had done it!

He said, "You have other talents besides teaching techs!" LOL... We gave glory to Jesus and he left without pain lifting his arms up and down and shaking his head in amazement. He kept saying, "That's wild."

Jesus really IS wild.

Thursday, July 14, 2016

Jesus Moves an Upper Jaw Instantly


A neighbor of ours had suffered from obstructive sleep apnea. When she would lay on her back, her lower jaw would open too much and obstruct blood flow to her brain. It was getting dangerous for her because at times she would wake up with one side of her face drooping and numb because of lack of oxygen to that part of her brain! So after many appointments with the doctor it was decided for her to have jaw surgery to have her upper jaw and lower jaw moved to properly align her teeth and therefore open up her airway.

My wife and I were chatting with her and her husband about this one evening while relaxing on our back porch and we told her about Jesus' love for her and willingness to heal her. They both believed in miracles and they are very real Christians, just haven't found a church they enjoy, so they don't attend one. But they are believers nonetheless. I learned they often go on Harley bike rides raising money for various charities. Such sweet and genuine people! They are the best neighbors we've ever had.

Anyways, we asked if we could lay hands on her. I told her, "It doesn't take Jesus long to do a miracle and we expect something to happen right now." She wholeheartedly agreed. Her husband was also excited because he had a great burden on him from worrying about her health and the upcoming 5-hour surgery and consequent 10-week wiring of her mouth shut! So we all joined hands and prayed. I commanded her jaw to be adjusted and asked Jesus to ease her husband's burden. Then I asked her, "Do you feel anything happening?"

She replied, "Yes. My whole face is tingling and it feels really different."

I know from experience that tingling is usually a supernatural miracle occurring. Heat/cold feeling is usually a normal healing happening, but tingling (electrical feeling) is usually indicating the Holy Spirit is creating miraculous stuff.

We loved on each other and called it a night.

A few days later they came back over while we were out in the yard and told us that she had been back to the doctor for a pre-surgery examination and the doctor had come in and asked, "Did you go to the orthodontist since I saw you last?" She said, "No." He asked, "You didn't have the orthodontist move your jaw since then?" She said, "No, why?" He said, "Well your upper jaw has moved a half inch since I last checked it!" He then told her that he wouldn't have to do anything to her upper jaw and only had to fix something much more minor on her lower. He told her surgery time would be 1 or 2 hours and she wouldn't have to have her jaw wired shut at all!

Evidently, Jesus is also a Master Dentist & Orthodontist.

Sunday, September 13, 2015

Cancerous Growth Disappears

I often go with a friend of mine from church to lay hands on the sick that request prayer. I like to do this at lunch time because the folks are local and it usually doesn't take much time for Jesus to heal the sick through a believer.

This time an elderly man from church whom I have known for many years asked for prayer because he had discovered a growth on his chest just under his skin and had gone to the doctor who had run some tests on it and told him it was cancerous.

We arrived at his house and after some friendly small talk also discovered he had some other various pains in his body. His hips and knees hurt him as well. So we first laid hands on him and watched as the Lord Jesus removed his discomfort from those symptoms. He was very happy but, quite honestly, not all that surprised as he was a believer in Jesus' power over sickness. I encouraged him, "We addressed these other physical things first because I wanted you to see some visible results to encourage you that when we lay hands on that growth, the same thing will happen to it." He agreed.

So we laid hands on the growth and commanded in Jesus' Name for it to get out of his body and dissolve away to nothing. Nothing happened. We commanded several more times. Nothing. We (and he) could still feel the growth under his skin. So we resolved what to do. Oftentimes if you don't see results I recommend trying this. Command the healing, then put your hands on the person for just about 2 seconds, quickly remove your hands and them have the sick person immediately check for results. Me and my friend did this. We were determined not to leave until the growth left and we told it so!

The first time we did this together, the growth got smaller. So again. Smaller. Again. Smaller. We did this several more times until the elderly man could no longer find the growth.

Jesus is truly amazing. Don't give up. It is what He wants to do. He wants the healing more than the minister and the sick put together.